Welcome to NALP’s Leaders in the Limelight as we profile the Regional Leadership Council (RLC). This group represents all six NALP regions, guiding key initiatives that support law school and employer members. Their range of experience and shared commitment strengthen and inspire our legal careers community.
West/Rocky Mountain Regional Representatives:
Darell Alforte, Assistant Director of Recruiting, UC Law San Francisco; Kyla Burke-Lazarus, Director of Public Interest and Government Programs, UC Law San Francisco; Ashley Grinchis, Associate Director of Campus Recruiting + Engagement, Morrison Foerster LLP; and Carrie Vawter, Senior Manager of Legal Talent, Scale LLP

What is the best career advice that you have received?
Darell: Work where you are appreciated for being yourself. It will make your career more enjoyable and rewarding.
Ashley: A mentor once told me that titles and accomplishments come and go, but your reputation, how people feel after working with you, is what truly lasts. Your reputation really is your brand, and it's the most valuable thing you'll ever build.
Carrie: Really invest in relationships — take the time to get to know the people you work with and understand what drives them. Strong connections build trust, collaboration, and a sense of purpose that makes the work so much more meaningful. I've also learned the importance of networking outside your company. Building those external relationships broadens your perspective, sparks new ideas, and often opens doors you never saw coming.
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
Ashley: Dare to Lead by Brené Brown. Her message about courage, vulnerability, and authenticity really resonates, especially in a profession where we're often expected to have all the answers. It's a great reminder that real connection and trust come from being human first, leader second.
What core value guides your decision-making?
Carrie: Connection is the core value that guides my decision-making. I try to lead with empathy and integrity — really listening, understanding different perspectives, and making choices that strengthen relationships. For me, it's about building trust and bringing people together in a way that supports both the individual and the firm.
How do you keep learning and evolving in your role?
Darell: There is always something new to be learned, especially in the ever-changing student recruitment landscape! Generations at work, areas peripheral to your day to day, and AI. I don't think I will ever master this industry, and that's what keeps it interesting.
Kyla: I keep learning and evolving in my role by approaching everything with a curious mindset and actively seeking out and building connections with people who inspire me and are doing interesting work.
Is there an issue in the legal industry that you are focused on?
Kyla: Throughout my career, I have focused on access to justice for immigrant communities, and I'm especially passionate about helping students pursue their own public interest goals by guiding them toward opportunities that align with their interests.
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
Darell: Meeting and making genuine connections with both law school and law firm colleagues from all over the country! They're a great reminder of how important it is to actually like the people you work with.
Kyla: Being involved with NALP has given me the chance to contribute to and build connections within the career services community, take on meaningful leadership roles, and gain valuable professional development and learning opportunities.
Ashley: The true value of NALP lies in its people and the connections you build. In an industry as demanding and fast-paced as ours, it's essential to feel part of a larger community - one where you can share ideas, exchange best practices, and navigate challenges together.
Carrie: For me, the most valuable part of being involved in NALP is the people. It's such a great opportunity to connect with peers at other firms and law schools, exchange ideas, and learn from each other. Everyone is so generous with their time and experience — it really feels like a community that wants to see everyone succeed.
Southeast Regional Representatives:
Ashley Alford, Manager, Early Careers Legal Recruitment - America at White & Case LLP; Moira Cary, Associate Director, Recruiting & Events at SMU Dedman School of Law; Veronica Elizalde, Director of Employer Engagement at St. Mary's University School of Law; Betsy Key, Attorney Recruiting Manager at McGuireWoods LLP

What is the best career advice that you have received?
Veronica: "You don't make any shots you don't take." I learned this firsthand when I met with my career advisor after taking a hiatus from practicing law. I enjoyed our conversation so much that I asked how I could get a job like hers. She told me St. Mary's Law was hiring and encouraged me to reach out to Robin Thorner. I did and I've been part of the team ever since.
Betsy: Always take the call. Be it a speaking opportunity at the Annual Education Conference, a chance to work across departments at work, or a new job opportunity — being open to listening to proposals can lead to new adventures, stretching yourself, and making informed career decisions (even if the ultimate answer is "no").
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
Ashley: Smartless with Jason Bateman, Will Arnett and Sean Hayes. Their banter always gives me a good laugh.
Moira: One of my favorite podcast series is Wiser Than Me, hosted by Julia Louis-Dreyfus. She exclusively interviews older women to gather as much wisdom as possible from their incredible lives. It's poignant, hilarious, and warm.
Veronica: Just one? I can't do that! For great fiction, I recently loved The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue by V.E. Schwab, Never Lie by Freida McFadden, Here One Moment by Liane Moriarty, and the Practical Magic series by Alice Hoffman.
How do you keep learning and evolving in your role?
Moira: In the last few years, my professional focus has been on saying "yes" to opportunities, especially stretch assignments, even when imposter syndrome flares up. Every time I've said yes to something that scares me, I've learned and grown immeasurably. I also try to position myself around colleagues and those in my network who have been in the industry for a long time, and then do my best to soak up all their wisdom and perspective on not just legal recruiting, but professionalism as a whole.
Veronica: I keep learning by staying engaged with NALP-through webinars, conferences, and small group meetings that help me stay connected and inspired in this ever-changing recruitment world. I also make it a point to attend local bar association, State Bar of Texas, and St. Mary's Law School events, which all play a big part in helping me continue to grow and evolve in my role.
Betsy: I actively participate in internal workshops on topics from executive presence to delegation, while also staying current on the legal market through regular reading and team discussions.
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
Ashley: The network I have because of my NALP involvement is most valuable to me. I've made so many new friends, and I feel that I can reach out to just about anyone if I have questions or curiosities.
Moira: The solidarity and camaraderie within the NALP community are invaluable. No matter what unexpected changes the industry experiences, I know I have a community to collaborate, commiserate, and laugh with.
Veronica: The friendships and sense of community. Since I began serving on the RLC, I feel like I'm truly a part of NALP. Like everything else in life, the more you put into it, the more you get out of it. Before joining the RLC, I was mostly just a member attending meetings. Then I served as co-chair for the State Courts Workgroup, and two things happened: I learned more about our work, but more importantly, I became friends with my co-chair. We'll be presenting together at the upcoming Annual Education Conerence. Now that my term with the RLC is coming to an end, I'm actively seeking other volunteer opportunities to stay connected with the people I've met and to make new friends.
Betsy: I appreciate NALP for all its benefits that include professional development and leadership opportunities, but the community aspect is by far the most valuable aspect of membership. Building relationships with members over time makes work fun, but that community is also deeply helpful in times of challenge such as the pandemic disruption. Being engaged in the NALP community makes me a more informed and better recruiter for my firm.
Midwest Regional Representatives:
Alecia Bencze, Director of Career Services and Strategic Initiatives at The University of Akron School of Law, and Samantha Zandman, Director of Public Service & Public Interest Programs at The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law

What is the best career advice that you have received?
Samantha: Be curious always — whether that is learning something new, getting to know a colleague, exploring a new idea, etc. Being curious will help you grow, learn, make connections, and often advance in your career.
How do you keep learning and evolving in your role?
Alecia: It has always been important to me to remain flexible in my role. During my nine years at Akron Law, every entering class of students has had different strengths and concerns. Learning from NALP colleagues, being prepared to integrate new technologies, and maintaining maximum flexibility have allowed me to continue evolving with each class of students.
Samantha: I stay curious and say "yes" to leading in new areas and programs, both within my law school and within NALP. The legal market is constantly evolving, and I love collaborating with my colleagues to find new ways to serve our various constituents.
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
Alecia: Getting to know other legal professionals from all over the country (and Canada)! While there are often differences in our students and markets, there are just as frequently parallels in all our positions. The connections I have gained through participating as an RLC representative as well as attending the AEC have been invaluable.
Samantha: Meeting and working with fantastic individuals across the country, and the wealth of knowledge these individuals and the organization offer!
Is there an issue in the legal industry that you are focused on and, if so, why?
Alecia: In addition to my role in Career Services, I teach Social Media Law in our master's program. I am always interested in learning more about how changes in social media and social media law impact how people showcase their personal and professional brand.
Samantha: As the Director of Public Service at Ohio State, I am always focused on public service generally, especially the challenges public service lawyers are facing.
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
Samantha: For my true crime fans, Sea of Lies podcast. For my fiction fans, The Women by Kirstin Hannah (I love historical fiction).
Northeast Regional Representatives:
Kaitlin Blevin, Senior Manager, Legal Recruiting at Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP and Therese McNulty is Recruiting Director at The Bronx Defenders

What is the best career advice that you have received?
Kaitlin: Work somewhere you can be appreciated for being yourself. It will make your career more enjoyable and rewarding.
Therese: Be yourself.
What core value guides your decision-making?
Kaitlin: A positive attitude.
Therese: Integrity, connection, service, collaboration.
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
Kaitlin: The podcast Let's Get Dressed (Liv Perez).
Therese: The book Supercommunicators by Charles Duhigg.
How do you keep learning and evolving in your role?
Kaitlin: I actively participate in internal workshops on topics from executive presence to delegation, while also staying current on the legal market through regular reading and team discussions.
Therese: Stepping into collaborative leadership roles and taking on new responsibilities. Trusting that I have the capacity to learn, mentors and peers to guide and support me, and teams that will execute the goals and mission.
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
Kaitlin: I deeply value the relationships I have cultivated with NALP members in New York and nationwide.
Therese: The people — the connections to those who have shared values of equity and excellence and recognize the importance of diverse and varied experiences in the legal field.
Is there an issue in the legal industry that you are focused on and, if so, why?
Kaitlin: I am eager to see how the accelerated 1L/2L recruitment processes unfold.
Therese: AI because we're using it in client simulations.
Mid-Atlantic Representatives
Elisabeth Beal, Assistant Dean for Career Services at William & Mary Law School and Jennifer Pollard, Director of Judicial Clerkships at University of Maryland Carey School of Law

What is the best career advice that you have received?
Elisabeth: Don't borrow trouble before you have it. Too often, we say "no" to opportunities or hold ourselves back because we worry about how we are going to manage it all. If an opportunity intrigues you, say yes! Things have a way of working themselves out and you will be glad to have challenged yourself and engaged in meaningful work.
Jen: Communicate early and often. So many issues can be avoided with better communication.
What core value guides your decision-making?
Elisabeth: Integrity and compassion guide my decision-making. I care deeply about doing things thoroughly and with attention to detail because getting it right matters. I also recognize that everyone carries their own (often unseen) burdens, and leading with compassion creates space for that complexity.
Jen: What is the good that can come from this?
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
Elisabeth: "Happier" with Gretchen Rubin and "How I Built This" with Guy Raz.
Jen: So many podcasts! "Good Hang" with Amy Poehler, "Armchair Expert," "Smartless," and "Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend."
How do you keep learning and evolving in your role?
Elisabeth: My incredible colleagues, at William & Mary and within NALP, challenge me to learn and grow each day. Through collaboration, thoughtful discussion, and engagement with new resources and research, I continue to learn, experiment, and adapt within the ever-changing legal marketplace.
Jen: NALP is a huge part of how I learn and evolve. Whether it's informal conversations with other NALP members because one of us called the other to talk through an issue or attending formal presentations/programs, talking to others who do the same or similar work helps me learn and grow.
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
Elisabeth: The community! Being surrounded by thoughtful, insightful, and creative colleagues inspires and encourages me.
Jen: Connection with colleagues across the country!
Is there an issue in the legal industry that you are focused on and, if so, why?
Elisabeth: I am focused on the impact of AI on legal education, recruiting, and the practice of law. I think it may lead to a seismic shift in all three arenas.
Jen: The ever-evolving recruiting timeline. This sole issue has caused panic-like anxiety among so many students and seems to be distracting them from studies and other opportunities. I fear it may negatively impact a generation of students so I'm looking for ways to better counsel, better inform, and just bring the temperature down a bit.
In this series we peek behind the curtain at the NALP Board of Directors. This talented group of legal career professionals from various backgrounds seek to serve their organizations with distinction. As NALP volunteer leaders they also want to inspire others to get involved with NALP and build meaningful and powerful professional networks of their own.
Amy Perez, 2025-27 NALP Board Member
Associate Dean, Office of Career & Professional Development, University of Miami School of Law
November 3, 2025

How did you get your start as a legal careers professional?
I decided I wanted to pivot careers in 2008, during the Great Recession. It was an intense time to enter career services, to say the least, but I continue to use the skills I developed then to help law students and graduates today
What achievement are you most proud of in your career?
I was honored and touched to receive the UM Law Society of Bar & Gavel's Staff Service Award a few years ago. Working with students every day and having the opportunity to make a positive impact on their lives is truly a gift.
How did you get involved with NALP?
I've never been a big "joiner," but NALP is truly a special organization, comprised of incredible people. I was lucky enough to attend the Annual Education Conference and Newer Professionals Forum, my first year in career services, which gave me a strong foundation and the confidence to seek out a leadership opportunity within the Newer Professionals Section. I haven't looked back since then!
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
The members! Smart, kind, generous, funny, and committed to doing excellent work in their day jobs and on behalf of the best volunteer organization on the planet - they are my people! And none of this would be possible without the NALP staff! They are the secret sauce, and we are so lucky to have them.
What NALP resource, event or program has been beneficial for you and why?
Right now, at this stage of my career, the NALP CSO Chiefs Interest Group is vitally important to me. We meet monthly and, while we don't always have answers for one another, the synergy inspires us and equips us with the tools we need to help our students through these challenging times.
Is there a favorite quote or motto that inspires you in your work?
If the mountain was smooth, you couldn't climb it.
Is there an issue in the legal industry that you are focused on and, if so, why?
I'm very focused on AI and all the ways in which it is enhancing and disrupting legal recruiting and the practice of law. It's like riding on a rocket ship while it's being built. We have only begun to scratch the surface of what's to come.
If there was one thing you'd tell a new legal careers professional, what would it be?
Join the Newer Professionals Section and every other section that is remotely connected to your daily work. Attend the section meetings and volunteer where you can. The time you invest will come back to you tenfold. NALP is an invaluable outlet for professional growth and leadership development, not to mention it will help you build a network that you can lean on for questions, big and small.
What does effective leadership mean to you?
Servant leadership has always been the style that resonates most with me. There are plenty of days when we spend more waking hours at work than at home. It's important that I foster a healthy working environment, where staff and students alike feel welcome, at ease, and comfortable taking risks that lead to growth and innovation.
Tanisia Charles, 2025-27 NALP Board Member
Recruiting Manager, Jones Day
October 6, 2025

How did you get your start as a legal careers professional?
I originally planned to go into tech recruiting in New York after undergrad. After a series of successful interviews, the recruiter I was working with suggested an unexpected opportunity - one that combined my passion for marketing, people skills, and event planning experience with recruiting. It happened to be at a law firm, which wasn't on my radar at all at the time. Still, I went to the interview, and to my surprise, I was intrigued. Once I joined the firm, I quickly realized how right he was, the role was a perfect fit. And to top it off, the people were incredible. It all just clicked, and 18 years later, it still does.
What career accomplishment are you most proud of?
The achievement I'm most proud of in my career is the impact I've had in helping law students and practicing attorneys navigate their professional paths toward what feels right for them. It's deeply fulfilling to know that I've played a role — whether through mentorship, guidance, or support — in helping someone find clarity or confidence in their journey. I also take tremendous pride in creating spaces where people feel safe to show up as their most authentic professional selves. That kind of environment fosters growth, belonging, and meaningful success, and being able to help cultivate it is something I value immensely.
How did you get involved with NALP?
Early in my career, I had a manager who was very active in both her City Group and NALP, and I quickly saw the value of the professional connections and insights she gained through her involvement. That inspired me to start engaging more intentionally. I began by reading the monthly NALP Bulletin+ to stay informed about industry trends, joined regional and section calls, and got involved with my local City Group. After attending an AEC City Group lunch and meeting some truly inspiring professionals, I felt motivated to give back to the organization that had already given me so much. That led me to run for a leadership position, and I was fortunate to be elected to the Nominating Committee.
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
Without a doubt, it's the people. Being part of NALP means being surrounded by a generous, insightful, and supportive community. I've learned so much from fellow members over the years — not just professionally, but personally as well. The encouragement, shared knowledge, and genuine sense of community are what make NALP truly special.
What NALP resource, event or program has been beneficial for you and why?
I've always found the Annual Education Conference to be incredibly valuable. It's a unique opportunity to learn from fellow members, share ideas and best practices, and stay current on key issues in our field. But what makes it truly special is the chance to reconnect in person with so many NALP friends - the people ensure that the AEC is not only informative, but also a lot of fun!
If you have a mentor in the profession, how did that person help you achieve your career goals?
Among the many people who have offered advice, support, and guidance, I've had two very intentional mentors. They have truly seen me when my own vision wasn't clear, encouraged me to challenge myself and have been true champions for me.
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
The Alchemist by Paul Coehlo was life changing for me and I find myself recommending it to at least one person once a month! It helped me reject regret and lean into re-direction.
Is there a favorite quote or motto that inspires you in your work?
"The most dangerous phrase in the language is, 'We've always done it this way.'"
— Grace Hopper, an American computer scientist and Rear Admiral in the U.S. Navy.
Is there an issue or development in the legal industry that you are particularly focused on and, if so, why?
The acceleration of the student recruitment cycle is something that definitely has my attention. We are all adjusting but I am paying attention to how NALP members, on both the employer and school side, are feeling added or compounded stress in the work we do, how students have to balance prioritizing their education with wanting to secure their desired employment and what's a bit longer term, how employers may move in the job market earlier than we have in the past due to earlier decisions by both parties.
How do you define professional success?
Professional success can look different across industries, but in my role, it means helping others with confidence, respect, and compassion. It's about making a meaningful impact in a way that earns the trust of my colleagues and makes my family proud.
If there was one thing you'd tell a new legal careers professional, what would it be?
You're here for a reason — trust in that and be confident in what you bring to the table. But also remember that growth comes from continuous learning. Don't just focus on checking things off your to-do list; make sure learning is on that list too. Stay curious, ask questions, and take every opportunity to expand your knowledge.
What does effective leadership mean to you?
To me, effective leadership means using my experience to guide others with thoughtfulness and clarity. It's about being discerning, listening actively, having the courage to make tough decisions, and sharing knowledge to help others grow.
Kay Nash, 2025-27 NALP Board Member
Chief Talent Officer, Wiley Rein LLP
September 15, 2025

How did you get your start as a legal careers professional?
I started my career at Georgetown University Law Center, working in Admissions, Financial Aid and finally in the continuing legal education (CLE) department. When Kirkpatrick & Lockhart was starting its firmwide professional development (PD) department, I was able to get my first job in law firm PD because I understood CLE rules and regulations. Wiley is my fourth law firm, and I've loved and appreciated all the places I worked. I have learned so much from the lawyers and professional staff at all my firms.
What achievement are you most proud of in your career?
Working with the amazing team members at Wiley including, very importantly, people who have been on our recruiting, professional development and legal talent teams and those who have grown and spread their wings into new organizations including other top law firms and investment bank recruitment!
How did you get involved with NALP?
Although I was a member of NALP for several years prior, I didn't truly get involved until JeanMarie Campbell (my boss at the time) encouraged me to do a presentation with her at the San Diego Annual Education Conference in 2006 on building a law firm PD program from scratch. And then I got the inspiration to get more involved in NALP.
What NALP resource, event or program has been beneficial for you and why?
In addition to the Annual Education Conference, the NALP Professional Development Institute has been one of my favorite educational experiences as I attended the very first one and have only missed a few!
If you have a mentor in the profession, how did that person help you achieve your career goals?
Irena McGrath (NALP's first employer-side President) has been a mentor of mine for many years. Irena always championed the learning and networking that you can find within NALP and the brand-enhancing opportunity to be a NALP leader and bring information and connection back to your employer.
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
Why Are We Here? Creating a Work Culture that Everyone Wants by Jennifer Moss (also a Harvard Business Review podcast). A terrific book to inspire on-site engagement ideas and positive culture building within your organization.
Is there an issue or development in the legal industry that you are particularly focused on and, if so, why?
I still remain focused on engagement and inclusion in hybrid work — what more can I do to build competencies of lawyers to work effectively in hybrid and how to continue to promote and provide a workplace that is kind, supportive and flexible.
Tasha Everman, 2025-27 NALP Board Member
Assistant Dean & Director of Career Development, University of Nebraska College of Law
August 26, 2025

How did you get your start as a legal careers professional?
I was a non-traditional law student. I came to law school after almost a decade of working as a teacher and in higher education. After a few years working as a judicial clerk I had two different paths in front of me — to pursue a traditional practice or to return to academia. I have never second guessed my choice to return. I love the academic environment and working with students. I have been working for 20 years in the law school career development field and I am still excited each year to welcome a new cohort of students.
How did you get involved with NALP?
When I joined the University of Nebraska College of Law in the fall of 2005 I was the only professional in the office. I was responsible for helping all students with all things. And, I had no one to learn from. I took myself on a tour of all the Minnesota law schools and the NALP members there were so incredibly helpful — sharing materials, programming schedules, and best practices. It was enough to get me through to February 2006 when I attended the Newer Professionals' Forum. My involvement in NALP has been integral to my success over the years.
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
The people!
What NALP resource, event or program has been beneficial for you and why?
I look forward to the AEC (Annual Education Conference) each year. It is a chance to recharge, reconnect, and come back ready to plan the next academic year with renewed energy and lots of ideas!
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
I am an avid reader of all kinds of primarily fiction. This year two of my favorites have been Horse by Geraldine Brooks and The Lion Women of Tehran by Marjan Kamali. A recent non-fiction read was The Immortal Life Of Henrietta Lacks by Rebecca Skloot.
Is there a favorite quote or motto that inspires you in your work?
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing."
—Theodore Roosevelt
My top 5 CliftonStrengths are Learner, Input, Achiever, Ideation, and Maximizer. Responsibility is number 6. This quote resonates with my Achiever and Responsibility (work hard) as well as with my Maximizer (work worth doing).
If there was one thing you'd tell a new legal careers professional, what would it be?
NALP is an incredible resource. You will not find better people or better information to do what you need to do. Lean into the support offered. Get involved in sections and attend conferences when you are able. Your career will thrive with the support.
What does effective leadership mean to you?
Effective leadership begins with a clear vision and a deep understanding of the unique strengths within a team. As a certified strengths coach, I believe that strong leaders take responsibility while empowering others to lead from their own areas of talent. They build trust by showing empathy, honoring individual contributions, and fostering a culture where strengths are recognized and celebrated. By focusing on what people do best, effective leaders drive collaboration, engagement, and high performance. They adapt with resilience and curiosity, continually learning how to align strengths with evolving goals and challenges.
Nicole Netkin-Collins, 2025-27 NALP Board Member
Director for Government & Public Interest, University of Colorado Law School
August 4, 2025

What achievement are you most proud of in your career?
Chairing the best group of NALP members on the Task Force on Supporting Gender Non-Binary Individuals in the Legal Profession (2020-2022).
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
There are three valuable parts of NALP involvement: the community, professional development opportunities, and educational programming!
If you have a mentor in the profession, how did that person help you achieve your career goals?
I am forever grateful to current NALP member and my former career counselor, Michele Hoff Fryar, for welcoming me into the profession, encouraging me to get involved in NALP, and cheering me on every step of the way since I was a law student.
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
Podcast: "Happier with Gretchen Rubin"
Is there a favorite quote or motto that inspires you in your work?
"Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. To keep our faces toward change and behave like free spirits in the presence of fate is strength undefeatable."
— Helen Keller
Is there an issue or development in the legal industry that you are particularly focused on and, if so, why?
I care deeply about working toward making the legal profession more diverse, equitable, and inclusive.
Debbie Snyder, 2025-27 NALP Board Member
Assistant Dean of Career Management, Santa Clara University School of Law
July 14, 2025

How did you get your start as a legal careers professional?
I first began in the legal field in law school admissions and when a position opened at my school in career services, I took the leap!
What achievement are you most proud of in your career?
I'm most proud of winning the White Cane Award at my former law school which is voted annually by the student body for the most outstanding administrator. When I was on the law firm side, I was most proud of seeing some of my summer associates achieve partnership.
How did you get involved with NALP?
When I was in law school admissions, I attended a conference where I met Karen Britton who shared that NALP was an amazing organization. When I transitioned to career services, I attended the Newcomers Conference and never looked back. Karen could not have been more correct!
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
Meeting members from all over North America and sharing insights is what I love most about NALP.
What NALP resource, event or program has been beneficial for you and why?
I read the Bulletin+ from cover to cover every month. Learning about the law firm perspective is equally as valuable as the law school perspective. We are all in this together!
Alison Ashe-Card, 2025-2026 President
Associate Dean for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, Duke University School of Law
April 28, 2025

How did you get your start as a legal careers professional?
I come from a family of educators, so when I decided to step back from the active practice of law, seeking opportunities at a law school was a natural fit for me. Working in career services and now as the Dean of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, has allowed me to share my experiences for the benefit of my students.
What achievement are you most proud of in your career?
The achievement of which I am most proud is receiving the inaugural Cheslie Kryst Legacy Award. The Legacy Award is given annually by the Black Law Students Association at Wake Forest Law School to recognize the faculty member of the year. The award was renamed in 2022 to honor the legacy of Cheslie Kryst, a Wake Forest Law alumna and former Miss USA who died by suicide in January 2022. I went to law school because I wanted to help people and to receive this recognition let me know that I was in fact making a difference in the lives of my students.
How did you get involved with NALP?
I joined NALP and the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Section soon after I started working in career services in the summer of 2013. The Diversity Best Practices Guide had just been updated and they were looking for someone to write an article for the Bulletin+ to highlight the changes and I raised my hand! My first article was published in June 2014.
What NALP resource, event or program has been beneficial for you and why?
Our educational programs. There is not one NALP educational program that I have attended where I did not come away with new ideas and learnings.
If you have a mentor in the profession, how did that person help you achieve your career goals?
The best mentor I have had in my career was my supervisor at my first job after graduating from law school. He made sure that I had a colleague with me every time I was doing something for the first time, whether it was filing my first pleading, interviewing clients, or attending a status conference, someone was always by my side. In doing so, he instilled tremendous confidence in me and my abilities that continue to guide my career.
What book or podcast would you recommend?
Book: We Are Not Like Them by Christine Pride and Jo Piazza and Podcast: GirlTrek's Black History Bootcamp.
Is there a favorite quote or motto that inspires you in your work?
"Service is the rent we pay for being. It is the very purpose of life and not something you do in your spare time."
—Marian Wright Edelman
How do you define professional success?
Leaving a lasting legacy of making a difference in the lives of others and our profession.
What does effective leadership mean to you?
She who thinks she leads, but has no followers, is only taking a walk. Becoming a great leader is a journey of continuous learning and growth. It is a process — one that thrives on embracing challenges, seeking feedback, fostering connections, and cultivating understanding.
Rebecca Calman, 2024-2025 President
Head of Recruitment and Associate Integration, Freshfields US LLP
March 31, 2025

How did you get your start as a legal careers professional?
When I was in college at Colgate University, I loved interning for the Office of Admissions and wanted to pursue something similar after graduation. When I learned through a fellow alumna about legal recruiting at law firms, I thought it sounded like a perfect match for my interests. I began my career as a Legal Recruiting Assistant at Willkie Farr & Gallagher's New York office right after my graduation from Colgate, and the rest is history.
What achievement are you most proud of in your career?
In 2015, I decided to go back to school to pursue my MBA, which had been a goal of mine for many years. I ended up joining Columbia Business School's Executive MBA program, which allowed me to get my degree in two years while maintaining my full-time job in recruiting at Freshfields. I loved graduate school and will always be grateful to Freshfields for their support during that period of my life, which was both deeply rewarding, and at times, quite challenging!
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
Our amazing network of members is second to none. Some of my closest friends are people I've met through my involvement with NALP, and at this point, many of those friendships are ten and even fifteen years old. It's an incredibly supportive, inclusive, creative and vibrant community, and I feel very lucky to be a part of it.
What book would you recommend to others?
One of my favorite recent reads was Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin. It's a really special book about friendship and coming of age, and I highly recommend it! Right now, I'm reading Hello Beautiful by Ann Napolitano — an engaging story about four sisters, among other things — and I would recommend that, too.
What does effective leadership mean to you?
I think it means learning what motivates different people (which may be different than what motivates you!) and leading accordingly. It's a skill I'm still working on and one that I think is critical to leading successful teams.
Jennifer Gewertz, 2024-2026 NALP Board Member
Director of Attorney Alumni Relations, Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP
February 10, 2025

How did you get involved with NALP?
When I first started working in the world of law firm attorney recruiting as an Attorney Recruiting Assistant, I was extremely lucky that my boss not only supported, but expected, everyone in the department to be active members of NALP and our city group (WALRAA). She instilled in me the importance of developing a strong professional network and using the resources available through NALP and WALRRA to become an expert in the field.
Is there a favorite quote or motto that inspires you in your work?
There are two quotes that come to mind right away.
"Always do the right thing." It is something that I heard early on in my career. It sounds simple, but over time, and as you gain more responsibility, you learn that the right thing often isn't the path of least resistance or the obvious or fair thing. It's advice that takes focus and fortitude to follow.
"Seek the good, not the big." This was advice given in the context of career paths. When making decisions about my career, this quote has helped me focus on what is best for me and my family and not what will pay the most and/or be the biggest step up the ladder.
How do you define professional success?
This has changed for me over the course of my career. These days, I would define it as being in a position that allows you to do work that you enjoy; is fulfilling, is impactful and meaningful to you; provides opportunity for growth; and that you are respected and valued by your co-workers and industry peers.
If there was one thing, you'd tell a new legal careers professional, what would it be?
Say "yes" to as many opportunities that come your way as you can. Some of the most important professional experiences in my career have been those that fell outside of my official job description. You never pay much attention to the "other responsibilities as needed" part of your job description but those responsibilities are often some of the best opportunities to connect with new people and expand your skill set.
Cassandre Stump, 2024-2026 NALP Board Member
Director of Recruiting and Diversity Initiatives, New York University School of Law
January 21, 2025

How did you get your start as a legal careers professional?
After seven years as a Big Law associate, I was at a crossroads. I did some soul searching and read "Career Match: Connecting Who You Are with What You'll Love to Do," which I actually found on NALP's website. The book has some self-assessments, and my results suggested the areas of education, law, and HR could be good paths. A light bulb went off. I always enjoyed serving on my firm's diversity and recruiting committees. I sought counsel from the alumni counselor at my alma mater, Georgetown Law, Marilyn Tucker. She suggested I hold informational interviews with many people in career services, including my future boss, Irene Dorzback, former Associate Dean of the Office of Career Services at NYU Law. Irene offered me a temporary volunteer counseling position in her office. This led to my securing a short-term temporary paid position in another law school career office. Beginning in September 2013, just one year after my temporary stint at NYU, I began my tenure as a permanent member of the team and haven't looked back since.
How did you get involved with NALP?
While attending the Annual Education Conference (AEC) early in my career, I became energized by networking with legal career professionals from law schools and employers across the U.S. and Canada. Learning from others inspired me to contribute to NALP's programming and resources. When the Diversity & Inclusion section was seeking volunteers to interview DEI advocates for a publication, I threw my hat in the ring and ultimately authored two pieces for that publication. Since then, I have served as a co-vice chair for various work groups of the JD Career Advisors and Experienced Professionals Sections, participated in various task forces, written for the Bulletin+, and presented at the AEC and Legal Recruiting Summit.
What is the most valuable part of being involved in NALP?
The relationships you develop with fellow members! I have cultivated and grown connections with professionals from law schools and employers of all sizes, from around the country and Canada. If I need someone with whom to brainstorm about a new project and/or would like to bounce ideas off of someone outside of my bubble, it is so reassuring to know that someone among NALP's 3,000+ members is willing and able to help me.
Is there a favorite quote or motto that inspires you in your work?
"The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams."
— Eleanor Roosevelt
What does effective leadership mean to you?
Effective leadership includes (1) providing a supportive environment allowing team members to innovate and progress through the ranks, (2) creating a mission for your office/organization and inspiring and leading your colleagues to work towards accomplishing that mission, and (3) encouraging empathy and collaboration within members of the office/organization and between office/organization members and outside constituents and/or stakeholders.
Myriah Graves, 2024-2026 NALP Board Member
Director of Professional Development at Fogler, Rubinoff LLP

September 9, 2024
What achievement are you most proud of in your career?
I take great pride in the relationships I have built and maintained with members of my firm over the past 24 years.
How did you get involved with NALP?
Upon attending my first NALP conference, I found myself amongst unfamiliar faces. Determined to forge connections and expand my knowledge base, I proactively volunteered for numerous NALP working groups. It was such a positive experience that I have continued to expand my involvement with NALP each year.
What NALP resource, event, or program has been beneficial for you and why?
The Annual Education Conference offers invaluable resources, equipping attendees with tools and innovative ideas to elevate their roles. Additionally, the NALP Bulletin+ and newsletters serve as excellent repositories of information, further enriching professional knowledge and development.
If you have a mentor in the profession, how did that person help you achieve your career goals?
By sharing their own career trajectory and experiences, my mentor has helped me chart a clear path for my own career. They have advised me on setting realistic and ambitious career goals, and provided strategies to achieve them, whether it's aiming for partnership or, in my case, transitioning to a role within my firm.
Is there an issue or development in the legal industry that you are particularly focused on and, if so, why?
One issue in the legal industry that I am particularly focused on is the integration and impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on legal practices. AI is revolutionizing the legal field, and its implications are profound and multifaceted. Focusing on AI in the legal industry is essential because it represents both an opportunity and a challenge. Embracing AI can lead to significant advancements in how legal services are delivered, but it also requires careful management to ensure ethical use and equitable access. By staying informed and proactive about AI developments, we can harness its potential to enhance our practice while addressing the associated risks and challenges responsibly.
What does effective leadership mean to you?
Effective leadership, to me, means inspiring and guiding a team towards achieving common goals while fostering an environment of trust, collaboration, and growth. It is also about balancing the drive for results with a genuine care for people, ensuring that the team thrives both individually and collectively.
Sylvia James, 2024-2026 Vice-President for Diversity, Equity & Inclusion
Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer at Winston & Strawn LLP

August 19, 2024
How did you get your start as a legal career professional?
After I graduated from law school, I spent 10 years as a Labor and Employment lawyer. The last five years of my law practice was in the Corporate Diversity Counseling Group at Holland & Knight, the only such practice group in the country at that time. I then went on to Baker Botts to serve as the firm's Diversity Counsel. I joined Winston & Strawn in 2017, after 11 years at Baker Botts.
How did you get involved with NALP?
I became involved in NALP in 2006. I served on several planning teams for the NALP/ALFDP Diversity & Inclusion Summit. I attended and spoke at several NALP conferences and events over the years but became a formal NALP member when I joined Winston.
What NALP resource, event, or program has been beneficial for you and why?
By far, NALP's annual Report on Diversity is one of my go-to resources, always within reach on my desk. I've always used it to benchmark our performance compared to industry averages. I also like attending the Annual Education Conference because of the rich DEI programming and the opportunity to learn from my colleagues in talent functions.
If you have a mentor in the profession, how did that person help you achieve your career goals?
My mentor in my personal and professional life is my sister Rose James. She is the Global Senior Director, Intellectual Property at Expedia Group. She is my best friend, cheerleader, mentor, coach and partner in crime. Everything good I've accomplished in life has her stamp on it.
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
I'm a huge Malcolm Gladwell fan, so I recommend his podcasts and all of his books. I feel like Blink and Outliers changed my life. They had a huge positive influence on my career. In my personal life, I recommend The Five Love Languages and The Four Agreements.
Is there a favorite quote that inspires you in your work?
Feel the fear and do it anyway. I have fears like everyone else, but I acknowledge the fear and push forward.
Is there an issue or development in the legal industry that you are focused on and, if so, why?
I'm particularly focused on the pushback against DEI initiatives happening in the courts, legislature, and court of public opinion because it directly impacts my work. I'm encouraged and hopeful about the future because my firm and many others have remained committed to advancing DEI.
Michael Ende, 2023-2025 Vice-President for Finance
Associate Dean for Career Services, William & Mary Law School

July 29, 2024
What achievement are you most proud of in your career?
Over 17 years in law school career services, I've had the opportunity to work with thousands of students, and I am most proud of the personal and professional success they've achieved. The best reward is to work with a student from the day they arrive in law school and to watch them evolve and grow over time into exceptional people and professionals.
Second on the list is being voted by our students as the recipient of William & Mary's John Marshall Award for outstanding service to the law school community and for fidelity to the qualities of character, leadership, and selfless service.
Third, I'm very proud of the extent to which members of my team have become actively involved with NALP and taken on leadership roles within the association.
How did you get involved with NALP?
I owe my NALP involvement to Melissa Lennon. I was a member of the Judicial Clerkship Section, and the section was seeking a volunteer to work on the state court judicial clerkship guide. As someone who was still relatively junior in this profession, I volunteered with some reluctance, but Melissa encouraged and supported me and spurred my interest in becoming more involved. Then, through a series of fortunate occurrences, I was asked to serve as a member of the planning team for the 2014 PDI, and the rest is history.
If you have a mentor in the profession, how did that person help you achieve your career goals?
I know I'll forget someone but here goes. Diane Costigan was part of the search committee that hired me into my first job in law school career services, and without her initial support, I don't think I'd be where I am today. Melissa Lennon pushed me to get more involved with the Judicial Clerkship Section and has been a regular source of support. Molly Peckman and I served on two conference planning teams, and she became my champion when I thought about seeking leadership positions within NALP. And Lynn Herron and Jen Henfey both saw things in me that I didn't necessarily see in myself, and they became tremendous supporters as I sought out board positions.
Is there a favorite quote or motto that inspires you in your work?
"Be curious, not judgmental." —Ted Lasso
I have this quote posted on my office door, and I've tried to incorporate it into my career advising with students. I want them to be curious about the profession they are about to enter and the different paths they can take that will lead them to happiness and success. And I want them to avoid being judgmental about others and about opportunities — I want them to approach everything — their classmates, their faculty, the profession, the job search with an open mind.
Is there an issue or development in the legal industry that you are particularly focused on and, if so, why?
I am fascinated by AI and ChatGPT, and I am constantly exploring ways to incorporate AI into my daily routine and the work of my office to support our students.
How do you define professional success?
I tend to define professional success based on the success of my colleagues. I'm very proud of the extent to which members of my team — both at William & Mary and at my prior law school — have become actively involved as leaders within NALP. Watching their professional development and growth — and encouraging and enabling that development and growth — is incredibly rewarding.
Jessica Buchsbaum, 2024-2026 Vice-President for Member Services and Education
Chief Legal Talent Officer, Bilzin Sumberg LLP

July 8, 2024
How did you get involved with NALP?
My first conference was Chicago in 2005, and I was so overwhelmed! I connected with some newer professionals in my region, and I had an experienced professional as a mentor who encouraged me to become involved in NALP. I started by writing articles and joining sections and then I was on the conference planning team for the Puerto Rico conference in 2010.
If you have a mentor in the profession, how did that person help you achieve your career goals?
My professional mentor was Esther Rodriguez from Holland & Knight. She was always encouraging me to get involved as a way to gain knowledge and broaden my network to add value at my firm.
What book or podcast would you recommend to others?
Other than NALP Talk?!? I'm a big fan of Malcolm Gladwell's Revisionist History podcast — in particular, the episode "Project Dillard" examining the US News & World Report rankings and how their criteria impact HBCU rankings. It would be fascinating for our members and would be fun for them to hear the genesis of the idea to have the Dillard Choir perform at our DEI reception in New Orleans.
Is there a favorite quote or motto that inspires you in your work?
If you're too big to do the small stuff, you're too small to do the big stuff.
Is there an issue or development in the legal industry that you are particularly focused on and, if so, why?
Maintaining and broadening the pipeline of diverse attorneys into the profession. It's something I've been working on for over a decade through my involvement in bringing the NALP/Streetlaw Diversity Pipeline Program to Bilzin Sumberg and running the program for the past 12 years.
What does effective leadership mean to you?
Building consensus, organizational altruism, and developing the next generation of leaders.
